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Tuesday, March 5, 2019

Classic 45c Notes

* Female by nature, non by law ar supposed to be dutiful masterd by men at that places some occasion unnatural virtually what Antigone is doing. * This chthonictake is ab bring out gender also * Ismene = topicl charwoman * Women should be silent and Ismene voices that * Women should be commonsensible, should be ruled by men * Grecian au cracknce at the duration is supposed to hate Antigone * Creon he wishings to run into himself as voicing the opinions of the beau ideals Antigone also says that shes working for the divineand that complicates things * Creon stands for the urban center He aligns his authority with the authority of the gods * He doesnt think of himself of dismissal against the gods * He has bookn over and summoned the battalion and asked them how he rules.. how does he rule? Notice how he worrys public speaking When the city is suffering. when the city is in trouble, you shouldnt be silent * The city is at this lay in a kind of danger that Creon does non contact nonetheless. He leave see it later on. if the city is suffering he essentials the people to speak up and take action. hes non talking close Antigone of course. but shes doing meet that. Loyalty is to the state Not to former(a) human organism * And yet at the end of the runaway, to whom does he show loyalty HIS SON * These are his values and he does non abide by his values * It is non in a focal point family vs. state. it is family vs. Creon state. this is the state that Creon is organizing.. why does this state let to fall? Not state in universal. withhold that in mind * He hopes us to see the promulgation coming up is in harmony.. hes inviting us to see the proclamation Eteocles allow for be buried in his serious while Polyneices impart not be buried. he is not to be mourned.. Creon uses the future ( Eteocles SHALL BE BURIED) * Antigone uses the past * Another thing we noticed is the cruelty of the king ( you shall watch him chewed up )something th at we see rot, devoured, we see the remains, he doesnt belong with the living . or the deadwhat happens when the tree trunk becomes food for the zoologys * The idea that were supposed to watch someone rot, take delight in it. * Someone is expiry to violate the proclamation, we dont know who is the criminalwe are looking for the identity of the per tidings who has break the law. what is the crime It looks well-nigh miraculous, someone sprinkled dust over the clay and buried it without leaving any marks.. or tracesas if the body was visited from above * choir wonders if its the gods doingsand Creon loses it when the Chorus says that * Heres Creon is arrogant, how can a man know what the gods want? * Both characters act in a way that they think the gods want them to do. * Creon thinks hes doing all this to please the gods Creon cannot believe that Antigone did the in shapeent. She is his niece and a woman O Notice that hes interrogating and ask for the honor erect like Oedipu s * Nature is assisting Antigone. ature participates in the sluicetsmimicking what Antigone was gonna do with her proclaim hands.. * The dust risingshe was about to finish the ritual but whence someone removed the dust off the body the atomic number 16 metre she visited the body * Why does Antigone abide by the laws of the gods? They are there ever. * Human laws like everything human, are unresolved to assortment * Antigone is basically reflexion Creons worthless cause once someone comes after you to rule, things will change * Antigones demise and Creons demise * Both will shake terrible ends Creon thinks that he has supreme exponent over her, and that power is to run through her. according to the proclamation, whoever they will be stoned to demise in public,fate given to her by man. gender roles is very primary(prenominal) * Antigone tries to weaken his powers by put down his laws. face that his laws are not strong as the gods cause they were there foreverwhereas hi s laws are entirely in effect in his reign. that is one way * uphold way is verbalize that I know I will part. even if you are not the one putting me to death, I will buy the farm anyways.. by saying that, she is robbing away(p) of his power. ssentially Creon is only a guy killing herbut her death is only if gonna come to us. death is part of the universewhat actualises a difference is that we die by nature or someone is killing us. * And creons reaction to antigones words is that hes being lectured by a woman * Creons the man, so therefore he demand to teach this helper woman how to behave. * He seems to think that whatever he believes is what the gods and how their people want. identifies their wishes with what they think others wishes also * Ismene comes out, shy, manipulable, at the end of the crop changes her mind and wants to die with Antigone.. he had a real change of mind namely she motto that what she wanted in the beginning of the play when she was called cowa rdly. her decision is as cowardly now namely that now she wants to be accused of the sepulchre is that she doesnt want to be left alone * LONLINESS. thats another theme of the play * Antigone enjoys the support of the citizens but dies alone in a grave accent * Creon is loathed by his citizens and is also alone when his family is no longer livebornhe is ruling a kingdom and no one esteem himthought to be a corrupt king * Ismene doesnt want to be alone.. Creon changed his mind so that DEATH is killing herand not himso DEATH will kill Antigone and not Creon himself and that is an act of cowardice. some of the characteristics transfer to other characters * Haemon and exchange amongst initiate and son * Antigone is very much the daughter of Oedipus.. Antigone and Haemon never talksor interacts. they never will come to pop outherso son goes to talk to his draw * What seems to field of study to Creon more than anything else is obediencepower relationshipssomeone is obeying someo ne else. e demands obedience from his sons and his subjectsruling twain(prenominal) state and family in the same way. he does not differentiate the family and the state.. in EVERYTHING. small and reasonable things and un honourable things.. bigs.. that is the problem. it is NOT family vs. state Its actually family vs. monocracy / Creons state. * Is Creon disobedient? Does he violate his own prescript? Yes he is disobedient to himself to his own proclamation. this is to be contrasted to Oedipuswhat Creon does when Tiresias comes forth.. he changes his mind and does something different. he actually tries to save Antigone to which he has condemned her.. Creon thinks that both his family and city as his possession * He does rule the land at someone elses judgement in the end. by Tiresias .. CONTRADICTIONS AND INCONSISTANCIES. * He is not changing his principles. but the change in action was for in-person gain Had he saved in Antigone, its doubtful for him to change his ruling if she even lived. * Unmarried women are put to death in marriage gown.. marrying dead kind of a ritual and so Antigones addressing the grave as the bridal chamber.. shes having bring up with Death, thats her husband from now on.The idea is that DUE BRIDAL chamberal filey an emphasis on DEATH, not Haemon * To die if she so wishes or live. how can she live? SHE CANNOT LIVE. she does NOT wish to die. Creon wants a evenhandedly conscience. he makes it sound like whether Antigone dies or lives, it is up to her or the gods, he has zilch to do with it.. * Antigone put in the tomb, locked in nerve, left there to die. Polynices and he is not in his tombnotice the unnatural of thingsa living person taken into tomb. not dead yeta corpse is left orthogonal left to rot * Rituals are important the gods will not take heed to the chorus cause of Creons past * protecting, shielding himself he wants to keep Haemon so he can stay in his throne. not for the sake of his son, its for himself * they might belong to different realms cause Creon does not see whats going on inside the cave/tomb * Haemon is embracing Antigone, and Creon is asking him to join his father. he would be saying bye to Antigone and joining the father, and also joining the political succession of his father and no hit the hay. so what does he dohe attempts to kill the father with his swords but failsand cannot touch the father. o far away and even the attempt fails,so the father is still the king and Haemon .. he no longer belongs to anyone. disowns his father. he does not belong with death yet. he leans on the sword (phallic symbol) and kills himself. FULFILLMENT of marriage .. inner union with Antigone. sword is the phallic that enters him snag is of the woman.. once blood starts coming out, blood drops fall on her white cheeks, break of hymen. Antigone has never been touched by anybody. Haemons body receives the wound * Eurydices kills herself with a knife and Creon is alone Political situation in fr ance in the play * Think about nazi, jews, money, greed, later on before she dies (ring) * Who is the hero? Who is the scoundrel? This makes it harder for us to pinpoint who is who. * Antigones stubborn = French resistance * A traffic circle of emphasis on childhood, debaucher, purity * Many people who read anouilhs play doesnt like her * she goes back and forth a lot * METATHEATER beyond the theater, outside the theater, something that goes beyond it * watching a play any kind of comment about the play, about whats going onsecond look at whats going on. Prologue is a character that tells us what is going to happen * Chorus tends to delay, more of a commentary on the action itself similar sportction to the prologue in this play * Prologue is commenting on the roles of the characters, basically introducing us to the main actors, he is talking about the situation.. * Page 4 Prologue gives us that insight into Creons soul sensitive man, someone who doubts his political authority, something very important and different from the Sophocles one * Characters are full of self doubt, is a second aim situationlooking at what Im doing and figuring out what Im doing.. Function of metatheater? The effect? * Conveys a sense of inevitableness as if the characters cannot be anything other than what they arethey have been given roles.. delegate the roles and they are going to enact the roles and theres no escaping that * The idea that theater and maybe life in a totalitarian governance is more like a playif you live in a state where you can die anytime, your life wont proceeds much, might as well go out and have fun.. ets just do what we have to do and get it through with(p) get the cable done ( what Creon says a lot) and move ontruth of life lies elsewhere.. characters talk about the truth a lot here.. Antigone is kind of like that, but the truth she longs for is an illusion and doesnt exist and all that she has in her life is what exists, vigor beyond that Prolog ue. is just like the Greek gods, a kind of fate. Scene surrounded by antigone and nurse Nurse doesnt exist in the original. have Tiresias but not here its the nurse..We are given a first insight of Antigone. shes rebellious, not sleeping, shes outgod knows where she is Nurse thinks shes having a boyfriendyet shes about to be betrothed to Haemonaristocratic women should not behave this way. theres all this back and forth between them The Nurse is perhaps.. IS the manikin of pure love and administer in the play, theres nothing selfish, impure about her. shes all about selfless adult to Antigone, cares about her, loves herpolitical outsider, has no role, shes a servant. nothing to gain from the system.. o you might say thats what is achieved, introducing benignancy and goodness into a military personnel where motives are very much fluid, neither Creon or Antigone are good or bad, they are deluded. Nurse is not full of Illusionshe loves Antigone Antigone Her famous word is saying NO.. no is a word of a rebel. She says yes to the Nurseaffirming a mess of things to the Nurse even though its false. we have a bunch of yeses right after the other. Affirming things to the Nurse, denying things to everyone elseWHY? Nurse is someone she trusts, not a political authority.. rusts her and not an opposition to her as she is to everyone else, even her sister One of the things we noticed is that the relationship of Ismene and Antigone and how they are different in here than in Sophocles Ismene still the same in which she is opposite of Antigone, follows rules, obedient She understands where Creons coming from, but theres some other block off too One of them is the BEAUTY contest. Antigone is physically unattractive and Ismene is physically attractive, and theres a jealousy thing between the two sisters. Haemon is in between.Antigone steps in and uses Ismenes stuff to attract Haemon STRESSES Nazis term of BEAUTY blonde, blue eyes, and not any way dark skin and stuff Ism ene is the resemblance of beauty= German Nazis Antigone= French resistance STRENGTH & WEAKNESS Antigone .. not as beautiful as Ismene apparently Antigones love for dirt and muck up. has a lot to do with her upbringing, was told to do things in a definite order, she was told to be clean, not dirty. keeping surface clean of mud, upper side up the imperfections, not let physical ugliness show. analogous applies to strength Person who says no? erson who says yes? Antigone in this play is IN adore WITH LIFEshe loved life when she was petty, but as she grew up, she realized that the existence is really corrupt so now she doesnt really care about dying and she doesnt others to touch herdoes that mean Antigone is in love with death? NO, not exactly, she is tired of living.. a very modern innocent Antigone and now that she is an adult, she doesnt want the terra firma that she sees in hershe js doesnt want to live IN THIS WAYrejecting REGIMEGerman crinkle of France, resisting THAT k ind of life Childhood= paradise. or example Antigone just like in Sophocles play buries her brother twice 1st time she buries her brother= just the sprinkling of the earth.. are you sure it wasnt an savage that did it? animal metaphors . THE SPADElittle childhood spade grey-haired also.. we know that this spade belongs to Polynices children are associated with purity, innocence, all these ideas that the Nurse resembles spade= dilapidate.. playfulness, innocence, lack of care is gone .. it doesnt exist. uses this to bury the brother second time, Antigone did it with her bare handsAntigone is very much behaving like an animal when she is arrested Creon thinks it might have been an animal the first time She behaves like an animal Why would a girl be like an animal? Whats the association with the animal that ends up being a woman Why bring up animals here? Antigone is very much an adolescent, someone who hasnt grown up.. her using the spade is a sign of someone clinging to childhood, innocence. the animal means she doesnt want to enter society Nurse gives her little pet namesall of them have to do with birds. alls her dove/dunnock/turtle dove.. so thats another face in the play where Antigone is thought of as a bird, as a non human, term of endearment used by the birdall of them comparing Antigone to a non-human and then we have Creon continuing that later on.. all of these things resemble Antigone as not belonging to society . that and she doesnt put make upnothing artificial onsign of clinging to childhood. rejection of artificiality, shes clean pure, naked.. clings to childhood cause everyone else is an adult * Both Jonas and Antigone are under Creons rule Jonas is a guy that says YESdoesnt rebel in any way.. Antigone is the rebel * How does the guards behave. his desire to be on the rulers good sidepromotes himself a lotsaying he does his job well. Creon and Jonas are fixated on doing well & being efficient * Creon is very in favor of taking orders and exe cutingJonas is his subject * Efficiency. every failure was followed by with justifications just in case the king wants to kill youhis greed to get more money * self promotion, beautifulness, efficiency, desire to be on the rulers good side.. nd those are the values that Creon likes and thats what Jonas displays * We know who did it and now we go to the confrontation between Antigone and Creon * Creons obsession with duty. he sees his job as a duty that needs to be executed almost mechanically. Creon has been given the role so he needs to play that role as best as he canits all over the play. so a few examples * Creon says that Thebes needs a king with no fussIsmenes a sensible person, Antigones a irrational person * Creon is the guy that says yes * Antigones a person that says no Creon is caring about just DOING THE JOB, doesnt matter about how its donenot that kinda guyjust DO THE JOB * By doing that, Jonas and Creon is alike * Creon is the lover of CLEANLINESSAntigone is the one that likes to get her hands dirtymud. Ismene is the clean make up etc. make up. Antigone is the natural, and Ismene is not.. * Creon is a practical guyhygiene * **The world is empty of meaning.. Haemon and Creon are talkingHaemon wants someone to look up to, to have values. Creon says that we are alone and the world is empty and youve looked up to your father too long * values are what make the world work. ut in the play, if youre given an order, just go execute itif you want to live and value life, given a projection execute that task * next keeping quietis what Ismene shows in both plays. * Creon here does not believe in the gods in this play. he thinks the gods are him in this playabsence of the divine completely. gods are actually being ridiculed * Creon be practicaldont bumble time. get married have kids live a ingenious life and then die * One of the THEMEs NEGATIVITYfact that she says no all the time. * Antigone thinks shes the best thing in a corrupt worldshe will only lo ve a Haemon that is like her

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